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Ironcross Wednesday 4 December 2013 at 21:30
IroncrossAnonymous

Thank god I'm not the only one with this problem, I thought I'd finally had it with Ubuntu.
booman Wednesday 4 December 2013 at 21:35
booman

What other Wine versions are all of you finding that is affected by this Steam update?
So far I have seen:
  • 1.5.25
  • 1.5.19
  • 1.7.7
  • 1.7.0
  • 1.6
  • 1.6.25
  • 1.4

Edited by booman


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Ironcross Wednesday 4 December 2013 at 22:12
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What other Wine versions are all of you finding that is affected by this Steam update?So far I have seen:1.5.251.7.71.7.0

Quote from booman


I've tried all above 1.4, none work.
Elros Wednesday 4 December 2013 at 22:39
ElrosAnonymous

... It's a shame "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" won't work anymore ...

Quote from urbanshadow

If someone uses the howto I mentioned before, you have to manually add some source reps (before the second "sudo apt-get build-dep wine").

Edit /etc/apt/sources.list

at the end add this lines

deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main restricted
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates universe
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates multiverse
deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backports main restr
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security universe
deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security multiverse

Note that I'm using Kubuntu 12.04, change "precise" if needed

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urbanshadow Wednesday 4 December 2013 at 22:47
urbanshadowAnonymous

That's the thing, there's no such dependency trees on saucy repos. I have the respective repos active but "sudo apt-get build-dep wine" won't do anything. I've read something about multiarch edits to repos and a confuse rant about why would they do that to the repos.

I was confused too, so I tried to satisfy the dependencies the best I could. It compiled and steam started at least hahaha.

Edited by urbanshadow

Victoralm Thursday 5 December 2013 at 0:36
VictoralmAnonymous

Hi guys !

I had removed all the Wine, PlayOnLinux and Winetricks. Then I add the repositories posted by Elros and installed the wine 1.7.7. But get the same problem...
http://pastebin.com/RuZgX8p4

Is there something to get this working again !?

Edited by Victoralm

booman Thursday 5 December 2013 at 3:04
booman

They are having some success on WineHQ's with compiling a patched version of Wine 1.7.7
WineHQ

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bambitheslug Thursday 5 December 2013 at 3:07
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I haven't tried anything to get it working again, but my guess is Wine 1.7.8 will contain the fix. I looked at the News page on Winehq and there aren't that many days separating 1.7.x releases, so even if you can't get it working immediately, an officially available fix shouldn't be too far off.
taproot97 Thursday 5 December 2013 at 14:55
taproot97Anonymous

yup 1.7.8 expected on december 6
nematoad Thursday 5 December 2013 at 15:18
nematoadAnonymous

OK, so Steam doesn't play nicely with Wine. Big deal.

I never wanted Steam anyway and was extremely annoyed when installing Skyrim I got stuck with Steam as well. To my mind Steam adds nothing to Skyrim apart from taking up time loading and I never use it. I have found that Skyrim will work fine in off-line mode. Does anyone know how I can get Skyrim to run off-line permanently?
booman Thursday 5 December 2013 at 16:23
booman

Yeah, I wasn't happy about Skyrim requiring Steam either. All of the other Elder Scrolls games were retail. I hoping for the same with Skyrim, but nope... they pulled a "Steam DRM" instead.
I'm sure its in their best interests because of piracy, but it kinda sucks for us.

I'll wait for tomorrow and will download Wine 1.7.8 to test Steam.

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urbanshadow Thursday 5 December 2013 at 19:22
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There are ways to make it run offline and without steam, but you need a purchased copy of the game.

That said, you can actually make work the latest steam version without steam by replacing some files in skyrim dir.

I will not discuss further this subject to prevent rule infringement of this forum.

Edited by urbanshadow

booman Thursday 5 December 2013 at 19:48
booman

If you already got the update on Dec 3rd, can you run Steam offline in PlayOnLinux and still play your games?
I'm guessing the answer is "no" because the update already broke Wine/Steam compatibility.
Only those of you who have not launched Steam since Dec 3rd can still play games offline. The rest of us are stuck waiting for a fix.

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urbanshadow Thursday 5 December 2013 at 20:10
urbanshadowAnonymous

Unfortunately the answer is no. But well, I got skyrim running without steam using arcane methods commented above so no probs.

Edited by urbanshadow

nematoad Thursday 5 December 2013 at 22:30
nematoadAnonymous

If you already got the update on Dec 3rd, can you run Steam offline in PlayOnLinux and still play your games?
I'm guessing the answer is "no" because the update already broke Wine/Steam compatibility.
Only those of you who have not launched Steam since Dec 3rd can still play games offline. The rest of us are stuck waiting for a fix.

Quote from booman


Yes, it works perfectly well for me without Steam.  Even after the update.

At the moment
I'm unplugging the RJ45 from my hub and Steam just goes into off-line
mode.  I then start Skyrim and away it goes.

That's why I asked
if it is possible to get Skyrim running permanently off-line as fiddling
about with ethernet cables is a bit of a pain.

Oh and yes I do have a retail DVD, as far as the original installation was concerned it was useless, just a coaster. The only thing of use was the activation code.

 Still I got it from Tescos for £20, a bit cheaper than from Steam.

Edited by nematoad

booman Thursday 5 December 2013 at 22:52
booman

Hmm, that makes me wonder if you got the update at all?
What version of Wine are you using?

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nematoad Friday 6 December 2013 at 14:38
nematoadAnonymous

Oh I got the update alright, a big downloaad like that on my narrow broadband is not something that you would blink and miss. Wine is throwing all the errors that everyone here has mentioned, so I have definitely got the SNAFU as well.

I'm currently using 1.72.

Like i say I just unplug the RJ45, Steam goes to off-line mode and I can hjust start Skyrim sans the bloat of Steam.

Edited by nematoad

booman Friday 6 December 2013 at 15:15
booman

Most Steam updates are less than 100 Megabytes, so it shouldn't have been too large.
My internet is 6Mbps download, so it doesn't take very long to download the update.

But its good to hear Wine 1.7.2 might still work after the update, even if only offline.

When you go online it crashes correct?

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nematoad Friday 6 December 2013 at 16:19
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Ha, you are lucky! My download speed, if you can call it that, is approx 200kBs, so it takes a while.

Yes, PoL throws an error message complaining about a wine error and then drops me back to the desktop.
Ironcross Friday 6 December 2013 at 20:42
IroncrossAnonymous

Isn't the 1.7.8 Wine update supposed to fix this? 
Also isn't it out today or am I getting my hopes up too much?
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